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Elly：

Hello, this is Elly. Today I’m very happy to interview senior Xiao Fu to participate in my interview. Could you please tell us about yourself?

Yichao Pu:

Okay, thank you. It shall go. I was previous as a data analyst for the Institution Research Center of Shanghai Metro. Cause I’m really interested in traditional Chinese medicine, so I just change my career path and to start a new master degree in digital health then probably that’s all. Yeah, thank you.

Elly:

Okay, I’m interesting. Can you introduce the project related to Chinese medicines that you are working under yourself in Entrepreneurship Center?

Yichao Pu:

Okay, so we try to develop an APP, a digital APP. We try to leverage the traditional Chinese medicine principles and our Eastern doctor’s clinical experience through this, the benefit of our users to help them to plan their diet. It’s like at the beginning, we will invite our user to do a quick questionnaire. Based on the questionnaire, they will receive a general overview of their physical condition. If they are like high retention rate users, they can take a picture of whatever they take every day. Our backend algorithm will automatically, I don’t recognize what kind of film they take and help them monitor their immune system. So based on this kind of technology, we can like monitor our users’ immunity. If they suffer high risks of catching flu or certain kind of disease, we will send them a notification like you are in high risk of like certain kind of disease. So our recommendation for you is like you can change your dietary habit a little bit and we will send them some recipe and help them to organize their food every day. And this is the, this is the all the function of this digital app. And in the future, we will like to expand our business to like we can all, well, we can offer like mail package like if they don’t want to like to follow the recipe to purchase all the ingredients if they feel like that is quite annoying, they can directly order the food package from our app so we can help them to improve their immunity quite easily. And I also like take advantage of the traditional medicine principles.

Elly:

Well, it sounds great. What makes you choose now this project?

Yichao Pu:

Sorry what?

Elly:

What motivates you to choose this project?

Yichao Pu:

Can you say that again?

Elly:

Motivates

Yichao Pu:

Motivats, like motivation?

Elly:

Yeah.

Yichao Pu:

Like motivation to choose this project, right?

Elly:

Yeah, your patience or yeah.

Yichao Pu:

It’s more about benefits. I think maybe ten years ago, I felt that certain kind of is a really ice they could help or modern hospital like without any like efficacy or any result. So I occasionally turn to a traditional Chinese medicine doctor and build my situation, my sentence was into mine. So I benefit a lot from the Chinese medicine. After that, I’m trying to learn and to, like to get some knowledge from social media and try to part time in a traditional Chinese medicine clinic. Right now I thought I think I benefit a lot from the Chinese medicine, from the principal, from the way they help people to regulate their dietary habit. That’s why I want to leverage this kind of place to benefit more people, especially like Western people. And I want to tell them you have alternative solution for help. You don’t need GP or Western like medical things. You can just do some, do it naturally.

Elly:

You are interesting. I want to know, how do you see the succession and the development of traditional Chinese medicine?

Yichao Pu:

You mean, the succession of traditional Chinese medicine?

Elly:

Do you have any matter about that?

Yichao Pu:

Can you say that again?

Elly:

Okay, and how do you see the successions and development of traditional Chinese medicine? Just like in height and development about the Chinese traditional medicine’s future?

Yichao Pu:

Okay.

Elly:

Yeah. Do you have any advice? Yeah, about that or some things you can talk about and share us.

Yichao Pu:

In the future, emm

Elly:

It’s a big question, I think.

Yichao Pu:

I don’t know, like specifically, but what I can say, like it’s not something like they want to try to replace the modern medical bands. It’s like they can do, they can do simultaneously. The traditional Chinese medicine is more, it plays a role like more about help you to optimize your immunity to keep healthy based on your voting habits. They give you some regulations. If somebody suffer a severe disease or like significant symptoms, they should turn help from their GP from a hospital. That’s more efficient. So I feel like in the future, Chinese medicine can be something like take care of people’s daily life and what’s the medicine can take? There are people with an emergency like two different roads.

Elly:

Well, can you show any experience related to your project?

Yichao Pu:

I mean, experience from my project. What kind of experience?

Elly:

I think interesting about your traditional Chinese medicine, or you think it is important for your project. Anything you can talk about, I think.

Yichao Pu:

You may probably quite important for.

Elly:

Yeah, choosing things. Yeah.

Yichao Pu:

It’s like the digitalization of the traditional Chinese medicine principles and the Eastern doctors clinical experience because, you know, like all that kind of principle, they are all written in some ancient books. And the most expertise in the Chinese medicine film, they only bear this kind of preschools and they experiencing at their 9. So our application, we try to, if we want to benefit more users, we need to digitalize all this kind of experience and principle. That’s not easy because a lot of Chinese medicine fans, they are more like they can diagnose, through your wrist holes just with three fingers? This is really difficult to be digitalized, but we try to do it in another way. We try to do some generalized thing. So yeah, to fulfill this kind of objectives. So if you want to say, what if that key feature for us to get success is that digitalization of China medicine principles and experience?

Elly:

Well, thank you, thank you so much, thank you for the interviews and hope you have a nice one.

Yichao Pu:

Yeah, thank you so much and really nice to talk to you.

Elly:

Okay, thank you.

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Elly：

大家好，我是艾莉。今天很高兴能邀请到小富学长来参加我们的访谈。您能先向大家介绍一下自己吗？

Yichao Pu:

好的，谢谢。那我开始了。我之前是上海地铁研究院的数据分析师。因为我对中医非常感兴趣，所以我改变了我的职业道路，开始攻读数字健康硕士学位，大概就是这样了。谢谢。

Elly:

好的，听起来很有意思。你能介绍一下你在创业中心正在做的与中药有关的项目吗？

Yichao Pu:

好的，我们正在尝试开发一款APP。我们想通过这款APP，利用中医的原理和我们医生的临床经验，通过帮助用户规划饮食让他们受益。一开始，我们会邀请用户做一个简短的问卷。根据问卷结果，他们会收到一份关于自己身体状况的概述。如果用户的使用频率很高，他们可以拍下自己每天吃的东西。我们的后端算法会自动识别他们吃了什么，并帮助他们监测免疫系统。基于这种技术，我们可以监测用户的免疫力。如果他们患流感或某种疾病的风险很高，我们会给他们发送通知，告诉他们现在患某种疾病的风险很高。这时我们会给他们一些建议，比如稍微改变一下饮食习惯，然后我们会给他们发送一些食谱，帮助他们安排每天的饮食。这就是这款APP的所有功能。未来，我们希望拓展业务，比如我们可以提供邮寄服务，如果他们觉得按照食谱购买所有食材很麻烦，可以直接在我们的应用上订购食品套餐，这样我们就可以很容易地帮助他们提高免疫力。而且我还想进一步去利用中医的原理。

Elly:

听起来很不错。我很好奇是什么让您选择了这个项目？

Yichao Pu:

抱歉，您说什么？

Elly:

是什么激发了您对这个项目的兴趣？

Yichao Pu:

您能再说一遍吗？

Elly:

激发了您的兴趣

Yichao Pu:

我的驱动力吗？

Elly:

是的

Yichao Pu:

对这个项目的驱动力是吧？

Elly:

是的，您的耐心还是其他的之类的

Yichao Pu:

更多的是因为中医真的有很大好处吧。我想大概十年前，我觉得有些病，现代医学好像怎么治都没什么效果。所以我偶尔会去找中医，跟他们说明我的情况。所以我从中医那里获益良多。之后，我试着从社交媒体上学习，获取一些知识，还试着在一家中医诊所做兼职。现在我想，我从中医那里收获了很多，从它的原理，从它帮助人们调节饮食习惯的方式中收获了很多。这就是为什么我想利用这种方式让更多的人受益，尤其是西方人。我想告诉他们，你们有另一种解决办法。你们不需要去看全科医生或采用西医的治疗方法。你们可以尝试一些自然疗法。

Elly:

太有趣了。我还想知道，您如何看待中医的传承与发展？

Yichao Pu:

中医的传承吗？

Elly:

您有什么想法吗

Yichao Pu:

能麻烦您再重复一遍吗？

Elly:

好的，那你如何看待中医的传承与发展呢？比如中医未来的高度和发展情况？

Yichao Pu:

好的

Elly:

您有什么建议吗？能跟我们谈谈、分享一下情吗？

Yichao Pu:

未来的事情

Elly:

这个问题确实挺大的

Yichao Pu:

我不知道，很难具体说，但我能说的是，中医并不想取代现代医学。它们是能够同时进行的。中医更多地是帮助人们根据自身的体质和习惯优化免疫力，保持健康。中医会给出一些调理建议。如果有人患有严重的疾病或有明显的症状，他们应该向医院的医生寻求帮助。这样会更有效。所以我觉得在未来，中医可能更像是人们日常生活中的一种保健方式，现代医学则应对紧急情况，两者是不同的道路。

Elly:

能分享一些与您项目相关的经验吗？

Yichao Pu:

项目相关，您是指什么？

Elly:

我认为中医很有意思，或者你觉得它对你的项目很重要。我想，你可以谈谈相关的事情。

Yichao Pu:

您是指对项目来说很重要的事情是吗？

Elly:

是的

Yichao Pu:

就是将中医的原理和医生的临床经验数字化。因为，你知道，所有这些原理都记载在一些古籍中。而在中医领域最专业的人，他们只记住了这些前人的经验，并在小时候就开始实践。所以我们的APP，如果想让更多用户受益，就需要将这些经验和原理数字化。这并不容易，因为很多中医迷更擅长通过望闻问切来诊断，比如用三根手指去把一下脉。这真的很难数字化，但我们正尝试用另一种方式来实现。我们正尝试做一些更通用的事情。所以，如果要说，我们成功的关键是什么，那就是中医原理和经验的数字化。

Elly:

好的好的，非常感谢您今天接受我们的采访，希望您一切顺利

Yichao Pu:

和您聊天很开心，谢谢

Elly:

感谢